TF GS P47 Build - yeah another bloody one!!
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RE: TF GS P47 Build - yeah another bloody one!!
Hey didn't realise that you had pic's of a good looking bloke wrestling with PITA P-51B. almost finished sorting the problems and a few extras i found along the way
are you going flying this weekend?
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are you going flying this weekend?
thanks
dave
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RE: TF GS P47 Build - yeah another bloody one!!
yeah mate I'm not bad looking am I? Who is the goose with the cut onka?
lots of pics on the LARCS website
going to try and go flying, might sneak up to coolum, huge big field and no motorway on one side of it[:-]
got the dummy exhuast done for the P51, well not fitted to the plane yet but that is a5 sec job to glue it in.
Job interview tomorrow at 1100 eekk! [X(] fingers crossed
lots of pics on the LARCS website
going to try and go flying, might sneak up to coolum, huge big field and no motorway on one side of it[:-]
got the dummy exhuast done for the P51, well not fitted to the plane yet but that is a5 sec job to glue it in.
Job interview tomorrow at 1100 eekk! [X(] fingers crossed
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RE: TF GS P47 Build - yeah another bloody one!!
little sanding on the P47 done, man till you get into it you do not realise how many blemishes there are in the surface.
Also a lot of progress on the Sea Fury, inner gear doors are done. Just need to sand back the resin on the flap hatches, squirt of paint. Air valve to be fitted in fuz.
Then waiting on my Z-killer to arrive from the US, courtesy of Bob
Also a lot of progress on the Sea Fury, inner gear doors are done. Just need to sand back the resin on the flap hatches, squirt of paint. Air valve to be fitted in fuz.
Then waiting on my Z-killer to arrive from the US, courtesy of Bob
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little sanding on the P47 done, man till you get into it you do not realise how many blemishes there are in the surface.
little sanding on the P47 done, man till you get into it you do not realise how many blemishes there are in the surface.
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RE: TF GS P47 Build - yeah another bloody one!!
ORIGINAL: SMUGator
What do you expect? It's got about three years worth of shop rash. I managed to put my thumb through the wing sheeting on my Corsair last evening as I was moving it from point A to point B. Gives new meaning to dumb thumbs and evoked a fine stream of choice words to boot.
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little sanding on the P47 done, man till you get into it you do not realise how many blemishes there are in the surface.
little sanding on the P47 done, man till you get into it you do not realise how many blemishes there are in the surface.
Tom
no mate that is not "rash" it is called "dust" hehe mind you it is very rash of the dust to be there!
hmmm here we call that "passion fingers" Every thing you touch you $%^& !!!
I have done that myself before and it is amazing how the neighbourhood hears about it too. Usally with some colourful adjectives thrown in as well.
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RE: TF GS P47 Build - yeah another bloody one!!
fitted the air sequencing valve from Ultra Precsion. Still have some airlines to hook up yet, will do that tomorrow.
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No pictures to show, but I've slowly been glassing things.
Got the cloth down on the everything but the fuse so far. On the control surfaces I have applied the 2nd light coat. I used a playing card to spread it out. It appears quite smooth so shouldn't take too much sanding.
My friend has had more time than me and has already sanded his 2nd coat and just about ready for the first coat of primer on some of the pieces. Hopefully this weekend we will lay the cloth down on the fuse.
Got the cloth down on the everything but the fuse so far. On the control surfaces I have applied the 2nd light coat. I used a playing card to spread it out. It appears quite smooth so shouldn't take too much sanding.
My friend has had more time than me and has already sanded his 2nd coat and just about ready for the first coat of primer on some of the pieces. Hopefully this weekend we will lay the cloth down on the fuse.
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RE: TF GS P47 Build - yeah another bloody one!!
Well have done as much on the Sea Fury as I can for the moment, waiting on the Z-killer to arrive and a JR Matchbox servo tester so I can set up the throws.
I also have to check incidences and need to borrow a H9 digital meter to do it, I have a Robart but want to see how good the H9 one is.
I did the CG today, it is spot on inthe middle of the range but had to move batteries forward and add 1 1/2 lb of lead to the inside lip of the cowl [:@].
I hate adding dead weight [>:][>:][>:][>:]
Final weigh in and it came up to 42lbs, that is 19kg. I did not think it would be that bloody heavy. Hope it behaves in the air??? [:-]
Time will tell I guess. One thing is for sure she won't be a star performer at that weight but will penetrate very well. 1st landing will be most interesting, lot of power on I think and wheel it on hot till I get used to it.
Then again I normally land hot!
Here are some pics of the Sea Fury in the front yard on it's feet for the first time. Little bloke had to get into the act as well!!
cheers
Peter
ps now I promise to get into the P47 and work diligently on it!! [8D]
I also have to check incidences and need to borrow a H9 digital meter to do it, I have a Robart but want to see how good the H9 one is.
I did the CG today, it is spot on inthe middle of the range but had to move batteries forward and add 1 1/2 lb of lead to the inside lip of the cowl [:@].
I hate adding dead weight [>:][>:][>:][>:]
Final weigh in and it came up to 42lbs, that is 19kg. I did not think it would be that bloody heavy. Hope it behaves in the air??? [:-]
Time will tell I guess. One thing is for sure she won't be a star performer at that weight but will penetrate very well. 1st landing will be most interesting, lot of power on I think and wheel it on hot till I get used to it.
Then again I normally land hot!
Here are some pics of the Sea Fury in the front yard on it's feet for the first time. Little bloke had to get into the act as well!!
cheers
Peter
ps now I promise to get into the P47 and work diligently on it!! [8D]
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Vary nice looking bird[sm=thumbs_up.gif][sm=thumbs_up.gif] and a better lookin helper can't even tell you did all that surface work etc.
Well we got 5" more snow yesterday[>:] so no priming till maybe mid next week.
On your 47 ware did you mount your reciver? I seamed to have forgotten about it so now trying find a nice spot
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RE: TF GS P47 Build - yeah another bloody one!!
Snow is melting here at a pretty good rate. Still will be some time before flying season is here. Spent some time today mounting the engine. I am using an A&H mount wich also acts as the muffler. Fits pretty good, however the alignment of the exaust need to be sorted out. I have some metal flex pipe but it just does not want to slide on with the poor alignment that I have.
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RE: TF GS P47 Build - yeah another bloody one!!
thanks Bob, it came out nice, shame it is so heavy though. Yeah the little bloke is a good looking kid.
gawd more snow, bugger that for a joke.
Haven't fitted the rX in the 47 yet, in fact have not even fitted the servo tray into it yet.
Well Easter Sunday here, little bloke has been into the Easter eggs already so has had his fill of chocolate for a bit. Mind you he was up at 6 and has now gone back to bed after waking us up. KIDS!
cheers
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gawd more snow, bugger that for a joke.
Haven't fitted the rX in the 47 yet, in fact have not even fitted the servo tray into it yet.
Well Easter Sunday here, little bloke has been into the Easter eggs already so has had his fill of chocolate for a bit. Mind you he was up at 6 and has now gone back to bed after waking us up. KIDS!
cheers
Peter
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Our Snow was all most gone and one nice day then we got dumped on by a storm out of your part ov the rockies. but the weather guys say warm latter part of next week.
Saw one of those mounts at the toledo show last year with a 62 set up sounded realy quite, looking fwd to your vid
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Have you run the numbers on wing loading? as big as it looks it should be just a rock solid flyer
and another Alberte clipper comming thru sunday evening and monday then they ( you know about they ) [>:][>:] then it is to warm up hope into the upper 40 deg range by w/e so I can do the primming
Got the reciver thing figured out, will try to post a pic later
Will meet up with the G/kids tomarrow after they heve done the same to there parents
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Bob,
nope have not crunched the numbers yet, probably should do. However as I used the bathroom scales with the point of the spinner resting on them I am woondering if this is going to be inaccurate as not enough surface area.
Will weight it again but with me on the scales holding the model. That should be a lot more accurate.
ok did some crunching.
Based on AUP of 42 lbs it comes out to 53.76 oz./ft^2
The TF GS P47 @ 22lbs (yeah right) is 38. oz/ft^2 Now at a realistic weight of say 30lbs it is 52.08 oz/ft^2 so quite similar.
Now I have no idea what a suitable wing loading for this bird would be but it does seem highish to me. But as you say Bob it will be rock solid in the air. Just need to keep power on for landings.
Went out to the field with the P51D today, bit of a cross wind, take off was fine but had about 30 - 50% rudder on most of the roll. Landing was ok, crabbed it into the wind using rudder and ailerons to keep level then touched it gently down and kicked her straight with rudder, looked quite nice in fact.
Anyway mate hope that snow melts soon and the alberta clipper gets stuck in the rockies or some place suitable so you can get some work done on your 47.
cheers
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nope have not crunched the numbers yet, probably should do. However as I used the bathroom scales with the point of the spinner resting on them I am woondering if this is going to be inaccurate as not enough surface area.
Will weight it again but with me on the scales holding the model. That should be a lot more accurate.
ok did some crunching.
Based on AUP of 42 lbs it comes out to 53.76 oz./ft^2
The TF GS P47 @ 22lbs (yeah right) is 38. oz/ft^2 Now at a realistic weight of say 30lbs it is 52.08 oz/ft^2 so quite similar.
Now I have no idea what a suitable wing loading for this bird would be but it does seem highish to me. But as you say Bob it will be rock solid in the air. Just need to keep power on for landings.
Went out to the field with the P51D today, bit of a cross wind, take off was fine but had about 30 - 50% rudder on most of the roll. Landing was ok, crabbed it into the wind using rudder and ailerons to keep level then touched it gently down and kicked her straight with rudder, looked quite nice in fact.
Anyway mate hope that snow melts soon and the alberta clipper gets stuck in the rockies or some place suitable so you can get some work done on your 47.
cheers
Peter
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RE: TF GS P47 Build - yeah another bloody one!!
spent about 3 hours this arvo wet sanding the P47 - yes you read correctly P~~~ [X(]
Anyway have it all rubbed back, found a couple of little spots that need attention so a bit of filler in those. Rub those back in the morning then will give it another couple of coats of primer.
Will see how it looks then, if ok a light wet sand with 600 grit and onto marking out panel lines, raised panels etc. that will take me just about all day I think.
Anyway have it all rubbed back, found a couple of little spots that need attention so a bit of filler in those. Rub those back in the morning then will give it another couple of coats of primer.
Will see how it looks then, if ok a light wet sand with 600 grit and onto marking out panel lines, raised panels etc. that will take me just about all day I think.
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RE: TF GS P47 Build - yeah another bloody one!!
just been over the P47 fuz appl;ying a bit of spot putty here and there. will get into those bits in the morning then give it a coat of primer.
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Hi
Thought that I would show what I ve done within the past few weeks . The two inner formers are to add support for the gas tank and to add reinforcement to the masive beast that will be at the bussness end of this ship . The throudle linkage is in there permanatly , so everything was checked , rechecked and checked again , and when all that was finished , rechecked one more time with the engine installed
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Thought that I would show what I ve done within the past few weeks . The two inner formers are to add support for the gas tank and to add reinforcement to the masive beast that will be at the bussness end of this ship . The throudle linkage is in there permanatly , so everything was checked , rechecked and checked again , and when all that was finished , rechecked one more time with the engine installed
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P47: still filling then sanding back so no priming today. Will have to postpone to next saturday. [>:]
Painfull process[&o]
To console myself I setup most of the Sea Fury throws, need to do final adjustment on elevators, flaps and ailerons as I did not fit the wing. Rudder is super responsive so may have to tame that down a little.
When I get the H9 digital meter I will do the other throws.
Painfull process[&o]
To console myself I setup most of the Sea Fury throws, need to do final adjustment on elevators, flaps and ailerons as I did not fit the wing. Rudder is super responsive so may have to tame that down a little.
When I get the H9 digital meter I will do the other throws.
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Hi
Thought that I would show what I ve done within the past few weeks . The two inner formers are to add support for the gas tank and to add reinforcement to the masive beast that will be at the bussness end of this ship . The throudle linkage is in there permanatly , so everything was checked , rechecked and checked again , and when all that was finished , rechecked one more time with the engine installed
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Hi
Thought that I would show what I ve done within the past few weeks . The two inner formers are to add support for the gas tank and to add reinforcement to the masive beast that will be at the bussness end of this ship . The throudle linkage is in there permanatly , so everything was checked , rechecked and checked again , and when all that was finished , rechecked one more time with the engine installed
Michel
did you check that the cowl will fit over that donk?
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Donk ( thats a stange name for it )
Funny you should ask that , we were checking it last night . What we found out was not in ourer faver at all . the cowl comes from FiberGlass Specialties When we recieved the cowl we were very impressed . But now that the fuss is built and the engine is istalled , its a totally differrent story 1) its length isn the same 2) diameter isn t the same 3 ) its not length isn t the same 4) the plug that goes in the center of the mould is not centered , which makes the front of the cowl out of round , its very noticible We will be contacting FiberGlass Specialties to-morrow and point out the situation , I hope they can help .
As to answer youer question , yes it does fit , if the cowl was up to specs . The left side were the engine is offset is very , very close . Until we get it fitted , we will find out than
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Donk ( thats a stange name for it )
Funny you should ask that , we were checking it last night . What we found out was not in ourer faver at all . the cowl comes from FiberGlass Specialties When we recieved the cowl we were very impressed . But now that the fuss is built and the engine is istalled , its a totally differrent story 1) its length isn the same 2) diameter isn t the same 3 ) its not length isn t the same 4) the plug that goes in the center of the mould is not centered , which makes the front of the cowl out of round , its very noticible We will be contacting FiberGlass Specialties to-morrow and point out the situation , I hope they can help .
As to answer youer question , yes it does fit , if the cowl was up to specs . The left side were the engine is offset is very , very close . Until we get it fitted , we will find out than
Michel
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I have to ask, which cowl did you get the one with open cowl flaps or the original with closed?? I noticed the out of roundness on my orignal build but not in the cowel with the open flaps. good luck with F/G specilties,I have had nothing but great dealings with them over the last 10 or so years.
As for donk best you can do is go back in the first pages of the thread and look up OZ-101 and even with that you most likly wont get it right but it will keep you smiling
Pete
Snow report for the month of march 12.7 "[>:] and 10 to 15 deg's colder than normal[&o] the bright side is it is going to warm up[8D]
Got some pic to post but it is off to hi, ho, hi, ho
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