WIND S PRO
11-24-2009, 11:47 AM
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WIND S PRO
Hi,
<span class="medium_text" id="result_box"><span title="Quien tiene comentarios positivos o negativos del WIND S PRO 2M" closure_hashcode_vynic6="182" style="background-color: #fff"><font size="3">Who has positive or negative feedback the WIND SPRO 2M
</font></span><span title="La fabricación china es buena" closure_hashcode_vynic6="183" style="background-color: #ebeff9"><font size="3">Chinese manufacturing is good
</font></span><font size="3"><span title="Con respecto al vuelo" closure_hashcode_vynic6="184" style="background-color: #fff">With respect to flight
</span><span title="Con respecto al peso" closure_hashcode_vynic6="185" style="background-color: #fff">With respect to weight...
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<span class="medium_text" id="result_box"><span title="Quien tiene comentarios positivos o negativos del WIND S PRO 2M" closure_hashcode_vynic6="182" style="background-color: #fff"><font size="3">Who has positive or negative feedback the WIND SPRO 2M
</font></span><span title="La fabricación china es buena" closure_hashcode_vynic6="183" style="background-color: #ebeff9"><font size="3">Chinese manufacturing is good
</font></span><font size="3"><span title="Con respecto al vuelo" closure_hashcode_vynic6="184" style="background-color: #fff">With respect to flight
</span><span title="Con respecto al peso" closure_hashcode_vynic6="185" style="background-color: #fff">With respect to weight...
Regards,
CNC
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11-24-2009, 12:17 PM
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RE: WIND S PRO
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman">Yes 5 or 6 weeks of waiting
In portugal 2 Italians flew with the WIND S, as was, is your average score. The Wind S look very well</span>
In portugal 2 Italians flew with the WIND S, as was, is your average score. The Wind S look very well</span>
11-25-2009, 03:32 AM
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RE: WIND S PRO
Dear friends;
Mario Reviriego receive a Wind S Pro three weeks ago, he says it is very good quality building and finish, maiden flight is scheduled next Saturday, I hope I can be present.
Best Regards.
Alfonso Garcia.
Mario Reviriego receive a Wind S Pro three weeks ago, he says it is very good quality building and finish, maiden flight is scheduled next Saturday, I hope I can be present.
Best Regards.
Alfonso Garcia.
11-26-2009, 05:34 PM
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RE: WIND S PRO
Hahaha . . good one Arch. Yep . . can’t imagine how a proven World class designer/pilot and producer of airplanes could design and kit a plane that DOESN’T fly well . .
I do think Silvestri has “nailed it†with this design for EP ONLY. It has a much thinner wing section and narrower fuse (although quite deep) than we are used to seeing, and has THIN trailing edges (although a thick, profiled rudder). Really goes against the trends in many respects. It would not be ideal if it were a glow ONLY design (or hybrid) . . It will need programmed motor braking as it would accelerate on downlines IMO. Apparently, the thicker wing sections are all about creating drag for constant speed (and slowing down-lines, particularly with glow power), although I understand the thinner airfoils actually do fly better. I have heard that thickness of the wings and wing area has much more effect on drag than the size of the fuse.
Maybe an aerodynamicist can confirm/deny this . .
In any event, the Wind S Pro should be a more efficient plane for EP requiring less power due to less inherent drag . . time will tell.
Note: I wouldn't consider this plane for conversion to glow (even though it could be done by a competent builder). I think there would be better choices . . BUT . . for EP . . nice !
JB
I do think Silvestri has “nailed it†with this design for EP ONLY. It has a much thinner wing section and narrower fuse (although quite deep) than we are used to seeing, and has THIN trailing edges (although a thick, profiled rudder). Really goes against the trends in many respects. It would not be ideal if it were a glow ONLY design (or hybrid) . . It will need programmed motor braking as it would accelerate on downlines IMO. Apparently, the thicker wing sections are all about creating drag for constant speed (and slowing down-lines, particularly with glow power), although I understand the thinner airfoils actually do fly better. I have heard that thickness of the wings and wing area has much more effect on drag than the size of the fuse.
Maybe an aerodynamicist can confirm/deny this . .
In any event, the Wind S Pro should be a more efficient plane for EP requiring less power due to less inherent drag . . time will tell.
Note: I wouldn't consider this plane for conversion to glow (even though it could be done by a competent builder). I think there would be better choices . . BUT . . for EP . . nice !
JB
11-28-2009, 06:31 PM
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RE: WIND S PRO
ORIGINAL: Rallygame
Jeff,
Sebart say only EP, the Angels S was and is a great plane, Wind S ?
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Jeff,
Sebart say only EP, the Angels S was and is a great plane, Wind S ?
Regards
Yes . . I said that . .
ORIGINAL: Jeff Boyd 2
"I do think Silvestri has “nailed it†with this design for EP ONLY"
"I do think Silvestri has “nailed it†with this design for EP ONLY"
Don't worry, Rally . . it will fly very well . . (there are a couple of videos of Seba and Hatta flying it on YouTube and other hosting sites).
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11-28-2009, 07:49 PM
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Jeff, I see that your updated your photo to the Wind S, is there a few build photo's to follow?
I'm green with envy if you have not noticed.
How was the State champs, I felt bad at not getting there, so I have been practicing the 2010 schedule as much as I can, my small aim is to gain at least one point in Expert this year. Matt
I'm green with envy if you have not noticed.
How was the State champs, I felt bad at not getting there, so I have been practicing the 2010 schedule as much as I can, my small aim is to gain at least one point in Expert this year. Matt
11-29-2009, 04:49 AM
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RE: WIND S PRO
Hi Matt . .
No build pics yet. I will get to it over Christmas / New Year holiday period. Bit busy with stuff at the moment.
State Champs? Bit of a disappointment . . had the typical pre-major mechanical/engine woes, resulting in yet another dead-stick in the first round (long story . . ). As the event was called off due to weather, ALL rounds counted . . Soooooo [:@]. Report and results will be on our web-blog soon.
Anyway . . some pics below. Plugged it together to see how it all looked and fitted. NO ! I don't think ANY of my competition should get one ! !
Cheers, JB
No build pics yet. I will get to it over Christmas / New Year holiday period. Bit busy with stuff at the moment.
State Champs? Bit of a disappointment . . had the typical pre-major mechanical/engine woes, resulting in yet another dead-stick in the first round (long story . . ). As the event was called off due to weather, ALL rounds counted . . Soooooo [:@]. Report and results will be on our web-blog soon.
Anyway . . some pics below. Plugged it together to see how it all looked and fitted. NO ! I don't think ANY of my competition should get one ! !
Cheers, JB
11-29-2009, 12:27 PM
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I wish I had the money and space for this plane. Looks so nice! The Wind 110 should be shipped here this week; I'm sure I'll be happy with that, too =)
Jeff, what are you doing for power in this bird?
The drag thing is an interesting question, and it makes sense to me that thick TE's of wings (and rudder) would induce more drag than simply a wider fuse. Tapering the thickness of the fuse down to the width of the rudder over the length of the plane does a great job of reducing the amount of drag on the airplane. A thick wing would have a comparatively shorter taper and induce a good amount of parasitic drag on the airplane (again, comparatively). Streamlining an object is what we do to reduce the amount of parasitic drag on an object, and a thick wing would be less streamlined than a long, wide fuse.
Of course I'm just an undergrad so what do I really know? [&:]
Anyway the reports of the Wind 110 are that it accelerates a lot in down lines, and it also has a thin profile and thin wings.
Jeff, what are you doing for power in this bird?
The drag thing is an interesting question, and it makes sense to me that thick TE's of wings (and rudder) would induce more drag than simply a wider fuse. Tapering the thickness of the fuse down to the width of the rudder over the length of the plane does a great job of reducing the amount of drag on the airplane. A thick wing would have a comparatively shorter taper and induce a good amount of parasitic drag on the airplane (again, comparatively). Streamlining an object is what we do to reduce the amount of parasitic drag on an object, and a thick wing would be less streamlined than a long, wide fuse.
Of course I'm just an undergrad so what do I really know? [&:]
Anyway the reports of the Wind 110 are that it accelerates a lot in down lines, and it also has a thin profile and thin wings.
11-30-2009, 05:21 AM
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RE: WIND S PRO
ORIGINAL: foofydoo
when you say the wing is thinner, by how much. I understand most pattern planes are about 12%, is this less than 10?
when you say the wing is thinner, by how much. I understand most pattern planes are about 12%, is this less than 10?
. Anyway, the pic shows the Comp-ARF Integral wing (above) and the Wind S Pro (below) for comparison. You can also make out the much smaller (lighter) wing tube used in the Wind . . And the best bit ! ! . . the wing weighs 348.9g (12.3oz). Both my wings were within a gram of each other . . amazing ! The light weight combined with a VERY inboard Aileron servo should present some nice characteristics.
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11-30-2009, 01:01 PM
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Contact Esprit Models, espritmodel.com, they should have them in stock here shortly and will be the US distributor of the SebArt line. It's not listed on the website, but I emailed them a couple months back and they said in stock late November. I think the price was around $1600 unpainted, and around $2000 for the painted one. I can't find the email for the exact prices but that's close. They are in Florida, so how ever much it is to ship from there to you...
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11-30-2009, 01:07 PM
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Jeesh, that's A LOT more than I had thought. Didn't realize it was much. I didn't even realize it was painted, I figured it had covering on it. Too rich for my blood, although I wish I had that kind of money to spend on it as it's a beauty!
11-30-2009, 01:08 PM
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Jeesh, that's A LOT more than I had thought. Didn't realize it was much. I didn't even realize it was painted, I figured it had covering on it. Too rich for my blood, although I wish I had that kind of money to spend on it as it's a beauty!
Jeesh, that's A LOT more than I had thought. Didn't realize it was much. I didn't even realize it was painted, I figured it had covering on it. Too rich for my blood, although I wish I had that kind of money to spend on it as it's a beauty!
11-30-2009, 01:20 PM
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ORIGINAL: gaRCfield
it is a composite plane, not covered balsa.
ORIGINAL: cappaj1
Jeesh, that's A LOT more than I had thought. Didn't realize it was much. I didn't even realize it was painted, I figured it had covering on it. Too rich for my blood, although I wish I had that kind of money to spend on it as it's a beauty!
Jeesh, that's A LOT more than I had thought. Didn't realize it was much. I didn't even realize it was painted, I figured it had covering on it. Too rich for my blood, although I wish I had that kind of money to spend on it as it's a beauty!
gaRCfield , i see you have alot interrest with this PRO ...... i have mine preorder 2months ago .... still in the waiting list[
]Jeff Boyd 2 , which power plane do you choose for this beauty . . .?? out-runner or inrunner (C-50 14XL or Neu F3A) ...??
Hope to get mine soon next month . . . .!!
11-30-2009, 01:35 PM
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RE: WIND S PRO
ORIGINAL: gaRCfield
it is a composite plane, not covered balsa.
ORIGINAL: cappaj1
Jeesh, that's A LOT more than I had thought. Didn't realize it was much. I didn't even realize it was painted, I figured it had covering on it. Too rich for my blood, although I wish I had that kind of money to spend on it as it's a beauty!
Jeesh, that's A LOT more than I had thought. Didn't realize it was much. I didn't even realize it was painted, I figured it had covering on it. Too rich for my blood, although I wish I had that kind of money to spend on it as it's a beauty!
