LUDS96

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For you folks that are into scale Documentation
http://www.geocities.com/Nashville/7348/g.html

SunShyne

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thanks LUD, I have searched for pics of the real one

is that your website and/or planes?

rfw1953

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Diablo,

Hey, congratulations on your decision. I see you got a Giles. I also read that you decided on the 160. Good choice. Thats what I had in mine and now in the new one I am assembling. Slow going due to work. Arrgh. Hope to complete and be in the air next weekend. Man I want to get it finished. Nice looking airplane form the pictures I saw that you posted. I told you you would lie it. What servos are you putting in?

LUDS96

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No there not mine! I'm a licensed pilot but no Giles! I had a Piper Arrow. I've had my kit since they were on sale for $199.00 Just started building it last week! Alot more work than expected but my experience with ARF's is they usally are! During bulid up is the best to fix problems! I put Dubro Giant Scale hinges in it! I'm going with the OS 160 from everyones good reviews on the Plane with it. There is so much information from past post from other builders we are now able to make Correct decisions from others experience! A freind of mine in our club is on his third one! Just Plan Flew the wings off the first three! He's running a Saito 180fs. He says balance the Plane 9.5 inchs from the ailerons! He's had three so that's were I'm balancing mine!
I have a world models Extra 30. I put a Magnum 46 in it! It's quick but a hand full! I'd like the Giles to be Fun not nerve raking! I also have a Four Star 120 with a 120 OS fs! Nice plane but like watching paint dry compared to the Extra!

SunShyne

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Roger-

gonna be Hitec 5645MG's for Rudder and Elevator and maybe some 654's on the ailerons. Share pics of your as well. Love to see it

I might chop the ailerons and re-do the hinges as well. Got some ideas floating around.

anyone have any exp with Smoke systems and the 160fx?

Geistware

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Gentlemen, PLEASE remember to re-enforce the top of the wing around the saddle area. Over time, the balsa sheeting will crack and could cause a failure.

rockmon

Yup Geistware, after about 400 very hard flights on my Giles I'm starting to notice some wear and tear on the top of the wing. If it makes it through this fall I'm gonna glass it over before I put the ski's on it for winter, I have been watching for that since I read about this problem in one of the other Giles threads. Thanks for the heads up, it's one of those things you don't really see unless your looking for it. I guess I'll go ahead and do both of them at the same time.

SunShyne

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Rockman- very impressive you have that many flights on your plane. What setup do you have?


Has anyone moved servos into the center to keep it from being tail heavy? Has anyone had that problem yet with tail weight?

john316

Just an update on the wing and fuselage cracking thing on the G202. I contacted
Great Planes and a spokesperson E-mailed me back with a response. It is Great Planes position that they canot control what powerplant is used and what type of manuevers are flown and that any aircraft can be flown in such a way that the structure can be overstressed yaddy yaddy yaddy blah blah blah etc.. Basically they are unaware that a structural cracking problem exists with this ARF. This was not the response I was hoping for, I wasn't looking for a refund, just some type of factory developed repair scheme or service bulletin. I find it hard to believe that they have not heard of all the cracks that are developing in the 202 airframe. And so it goes.

jmw

crossup

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Noticed some folks seemed to be floundering when it comes to prop choice. I have tried both Top Flite Pro and Zingers in 18x6/10 and the MasterAirScrew 18x6 Classic. The Classic was a giant mistake and I ended up stalling the plane on landing. Good thing this plane is tough as a nail. Massive breaking on closed throttle and as other found with this size, barely sufficient speed. Poor OS 1.60 had to howl to fly the plane and yes the prop howls.
The dual pitch(?) props were the opposite: pure magic, speed to burn( I fly with the throttle stick at less than 1/3 open) , vertical to burn. Using a Perry pump I flew over 30 minutes on slightly less than 24 oz of fuel and went vertical pretty much each pass around the field. I especially like the way it(the prop) flys the pattern. Very easy to keep up speed and yet kill it for landing.

Geistware

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Make sure that you fix the wing ASAP. THE spar is balsa and WILL fail!

rod2_hi

I found a GP Giles 202 with a Moki 180 and Futaba 8 super on an auction and got it for a song, I am on my way out west to pick it up and this thread is very interesting to me. I am still on a Kadet LT40 trainer, but almost ready for my Northeastern Sport-Air 40, then with some good weekend weather I might be ready to move into flying this new quarter scale rocket by early spring. I will be gone for a week but will follow this thread intently to learn more about the GP Giles 202. Thanks for being here, guys! It makes it easier to feel comfortable stepping up to the transmitter!
rod

SunShyne

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no problem friend! Things are a bit different for some of us here with the changes to the forum but we are hanging in there. I have learned an incredible amount in such a short time by simply asking questions reading things here. Its amazing!

regarding the plane I will be putting servos in it next week and will fire it up for the 1st time. Def will post a flight report.

regards

matt

Geistware

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DKid, I can't wait to hear a flight report on your maiden flight.

rfw1953

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Diablo,

Did you get the decals? How about a picture of the progress being made?

LUDS96

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How large a tank should I put in this plane with an OS 1.60 FX is a twenty big enough! How long will it Run on a Twenty!

rfw1953

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I use a 20 oz. tank with a OS 160 FX and it runs so long that I honestly have never timed it. I have my timer set at 12 minutes and use about half a tank with this timing. So, I would estimate that I should get a good 20 minutes with enough left over for a couple go arounds if needed on landing. I find that after 15 minutes I'm ready to come down anyway.

SunShyne

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I did not get them Dont know if the postman ate them or used them himself


its ok though, I appreciate it anyway

rfw1953

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Gee, not sure what happened. I sent them from my office the Monday after I got back from being out of town. I will check at the office to see if they got stuck under some papers and didn't go out. If they aren't there I will send out another set Monday. Either way they will go out Monday. Let me know when they come in. I still have your address.

Geistware

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Diablo, get a old quilt and make a wing bag.
That is what I did and it keeps the wing from getting damaged.
You can get the quilt from Good Will

LUDS96

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rfw1953 Thanks for the information! I just needed to know! I FLY THAT JET FOR ABOUT 5 TO 6 MINUTES and my nerves are ready for a break! I don't think the Giles will be any less nerve racking at first!

What prop are you running I was planning on a 18x8 Master Airscrew Classic! I have a 16x8 Classic on my Four Star 120 with a old 120 fs and it works very well!

rfw1953

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LUDS96,

I use an APC 16X10 and it really flies the airplane very well. Make sure you do the mods talked about in this and other threads on this airplane. Really important. I can send them to you if you can't find. Wing and fuse mods. are critical.

LuvBipes

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After 2 years of regular flying, I've decided to take my trusty GP Giles 202 out of service. If anyone wants a plane that's ready to fly (airframe only, no radio or engine) at a good price send me note at [email protected] I'm selling it to make room for other projects.

iyoy

I have the OS 1.60 FX running on 7.5% nitro, 18% castor. I'm at sea level and temperatures at 30 degrees C. the OS runs great, good solid idle, transition, midrange. Hand starts each time on the 3rd flick maximum. I'm using the stock 14oz tank which gives me a good 10 mins with about 3oz to spare but I manipulate the throttle a lot and am on full only about half of my flights. Fuel draw is not a problem with this setup even during extreme maneuvers. These are my static rpms:
APC 18x6W- 9000
APC 18x8- 8100
Topflite 20x6-10-6,200

I like the 18x6W best, gives my 12.1lb model unlimited verticals. I also stuck with the standard elevator throws in the instructions as these prevent the plane from snapping. Everything is as per plans except that I used a larger GP plastic motor mount as the one with the kit would not accomodate the 1.60. I'm using the stock OS silencer and this setup gives me very slightly nose heavy. I'm using Futaba 3001's all around.

I also have a Moki 1.80 NIB but decided not to use it as it made the plane extremely nose heavy.

It's a very nice plane and I'd buy another if I had the chance.

Hope this helps.

Iyoy

Simon Jones

Diablo. I guess I might be too late with this as it sounds like you've got the 160FX, but for others. The MVVS 160 is available as a glow motor which is quite light. The motor only comes in at 800g/12oz and the BMC pitts muffler that I have for mine adds a further 150g/5oz. I think that this might be lighter than the OS and about 2/3rds the price here in the uk. I think power is about the same and it will run on straight fuel, although I use 5-10% nitro.

Added to the above you can convert this glow engine to a gas engine with some add on parts should you wish to, although in Gas format I think the power drops to about 3.3hp.

I have/had a glow system on mine and while it didn't create any huge fog but it did put out a reasonable smoke trail. I'm about to put this into the uk equivilent of the GSP Katana 140 which is a 72" span job so fingures crossed that it'll do the business. I'm interested to hear what props people are using. I had planned to use a Master airscrew 18x6 but I note that some people don't get on with them.

sj.