Great Planes Giles 202 25%
07-28-2003, 05:20 PM
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Great Planes Giles 202 25%
Ok I have read many threads via the search tool and am still confused. hehe
I recently acquired a GP Giles 202 from geisterware here and its HUGE! I have read that he os160fx is good power but I am also looking into other alternatives.
My goals for his plane are good pattern/Imac flying which im sure the 160FX will do but id also like
- Vertical performance
- Hover capability
- waterfalls, blenders etc (this is more setup related)
not looking for all out 3d but some basic stuff would be nice so im sure powerplant has alot to do with it
Anyone suggest anything else over the OS 160fx?
SuperTigre G3250 or G4500?
others?
thanks
matt
I recently acquired a GP Giles 202 from geisterware here and its HUGE! I have read that he os160fx is good power but I am also looking into other alternatives.
My goals for his plane are good pattern/Imac flying which im sure the 160FX will do but id also like
- Vertical performance
- Hover capability
- waterfalls, blenders etc (this is more setup related)
not looking for all out 3d but some basic stuff would be nice so im sure powerplant has alot to do with it
Anyone suggest anything else over the OS 160fx?
SuperTigre G3250 or G4500?
others?
thanks
matt
07-28-2003, 05:51 PM
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I just got mine and I plan to use a Moki 180. The MVVS 160 gasser is also a good choice but not as powerfull. The 160 FX is a very nice choice also.
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07-28-2003, 07:20 PM
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My buddy...
My buddy had one with an OS 160 on it. Pulled it nicely for the 10 seconds it was in the air (A story for another time). Used a Bambula 18 X 10. Had plenty of power.
I just wish it had a 2 piece wing, but then I favor 2 piece wings anyway. Those are just to big to cart around as one piece.
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I just wish it had a 2 piece wing, but then I favor 2 piece wings anyway. Those are just to big to cart around as one piece.
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07-28-2003, 08:12 PM
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yes the wing is huge, gonna have to do some work to make it fit in my little Honda Civic. I just hope the 160 doesnt turn this into a fiasco like my H9 CAP 232 with a 46fx. it flew fine but power was horrible. Sometimes I get the feeling from reading other threads that it s a bit underpowered with it. Thats why I want to get other opinions and options before I settle on one motor
07-28-2003, 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by DiabloKid
I see you can get the Moki 1.80 for the same price as the OS 1.60FX. hmm...
I see you can get the Moki 1.80 for the same price as the OS 1.60FX. hmm...
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07-28-2003, 08:14 PM
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Moki 1.80
Weight: 42 oz
HP: 4.10 @ 9,200 RPM
Prop: 18x8 for break in 20 X 6 to 20 X 8 for aerobatics:
Recomended Muffler: Bisson Pitts style, with installed pressure tap (Only 5.3oz
OS 1.60
Displacement: 26.23cc (1.60 cu in)
RPM range: 1,800 - 10,000
Bore: 33.6mm (1.32")
Stroke: 29.6mm (1.17")
Weight: 925g (32.6oz)
Horsepower: 3.7 BHP at 9,000 RPM
ive never flown large engines so I dont know how each is. The numbers indicate the Moki has more power but at the cost of being 10oz heavier I dont know if that will make a diff
Weight: 42 oz
HP: 4.10 @ 9,200 RPM
Prop: 18x8 for break in 20 X 6 to 20 X 8 for aerobatics:
Recomended Muffler: Bisson Pitts style, with installed pressure tap (Only 5.3oz
OS 1.60
Displacement: 26.23cc (1.60 cu in)
RPM range: 1,800 - 10,000
Bore: 33.6mm (1.32")
Stroke: 29.6mm (1.17")
Weight: 925g (32.6oz)
Horsepower: 3.7 BHP at 9,000 RPM
ive never flown large engines so I dont know how each is. The numbers indicate the Moki has more power but at the cost of being 10oz heavier I dont know if that will make a diff
07-28-2003, 08:54 PM
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One thing to consider with the moki is the low cost fuel it need to run. You can run it with o% nito and the engine pull like a loader..
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07-28-2003, 09:28 PM
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Originally posted by kgarvey
My Moki 1.80 burns just under 3/4 ounces per minute, using 5% fuel. I like it. Power to spare. Pulls my Sig 300XS with power to spare.
My Moki 1.80 burns just under 3/4 ounces per minute, using 5% fuel. I like it. Power to spare. Pulls my Sig 300XS with power to spare.
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07-29-2003, 12:39 PM
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Flying intensity no so intense. Plane weighs 14.3 lbs empty. Unlimited vertical. Solid knife edge at 1/2 to 3/4 throttle. Hover about the same. Spinning a 19x8 Mej prop.
07-29-2003, 03:14 PM
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I have the Moki 1.8 in my Noble R/C 1/4 scale Giles. I absolutely love this motor. A great combination for this plane. Power to spare, and I'm running home brew fuel with 0% nitro. Just Methanol, 15% oil 80/20(after break in), and a cap full of acetone for transition. I recommend this to anyone. Fuel costs are much lower, and the performance is phenominal. My flying buddies are all looking into acquiring Moki's after seeing mine run. Don't get me wrong, I own several O.S. engines and love them all, but these Moki's are just darn good engines. My 2 cents!
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07-29-2003, 07:10 PM
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...One more thing (just to mess up your mind some ) I'm running a perry pressure pump with the Moki 1.8. Even the idle makes guys go ...ahuh! Love this little power plant. BTW, the 19x8 Mej prop doesn't do well with hovering and such. A better prop might be an 18x4 for 3D stuff.
) I'm running a perry pressure pump with the Moki 1.8. Even the idle makes guys go ...ahuh! Love this little power plant. BTW, the 19x8 Mej prop doesn't do well with hovering and such. A better prop might be an 18x4 for 3D stuff.
07-29-2003, 07:14 PM
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Love my Moki 1.8!!!! You'll like it too.. one SMOOTH running engine, and even hand starts easily if you forget to charge your starter batteries 
07-29-2003, 07:15 PM
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thanks Kipper!! man..Moki is racking up the points!
I just want to make sure I have enough power to hang it on the prop and perform tumbles and things to a fair degree. I know its not a 3d machine but it is capable from what I have read. I dont ask much, but a little something from it in the 3d dept would be awesome
I just want to make sure I have enough power to hang it on the prop and perform tumbles and things to a fair degree. I know its not a 3d machine but it is capable from what I have read. I dont ask much, but a little something from it in the 3d dept would be awesome
07-29-2003, 11:46 PM
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Hmmm. Have you considered the Moki 2.10? If it doesn't tear the firewall off your Giles, it'll do everything you're looking to do. Friend of mine used it on a DP Extra 330. And he's a 3-D guru!
07-30-2003, 01:10 AM
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Diablo, In your original thread you stated that you thought this plane was huge. It is not huge, it is one of the smallest of the quarter scale SA planes with barely 960 Sq. In. of wing area. This talk of a Moki 1.8 and even larger is quite insane. Even with the OS 1.6 you will be adding weight to the tail to balance it. This plane flies very well at 12 Lbs. or less, go over that and you can wind up with a plane that is no fun at all to fly unless you have a 600 Ft. runway and are comfortable with having it sail by you like a freight train as you are trying to get it on the ground. I'm flying mine at 11.5 Lbs. with a Webra 1.2 and I'm still very nervous when it comes time to land it. It is not a floater and any attempt to slow it down too much for a touch-down will result in dropping a wing tip and the subsequent repair work. Believe me, the OS 1.6 is plenty.
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07-30-2003, 02:54 AM
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Thanks for the input RJ. think im gonna go that way since I can get it $15 off with my Tower discount. Slap a Pitts muffler on it and ill be off to the races. Have you tried to hover the plane with the 1.60?
I said it was huge becuase I have flown 40 sized planes up until this one.
next to my Extra it looks monsterous! :stupid:
I said it was huge becuase I have flown 40 sized planes up until this one.
next to my Extra it looks monsterous! :stupid:
07-30-2003, 03:15 AM
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Diablo,
The 160 FX is the right choice for you. I bought the plane to do IMAC sequence and I start to thing the MVVS 160 will be plenty for me. I have ten plane in the hangar and 3D is no problem with some models. Its very important to keep that plane ultra light if you wish to go 3D. I thing you found your engine!
See my hangar: http://www.wspromotion.com/SansNom.html
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The 160 FX is the right choice for you. I bought the plane to do IMAC sequence and I start to thing the MVVS 160 will be plenty for me. I have ten plane in the hangar and 3D is no problem with some models. Its very important to keep that plane ultra light if you wish to go 3D. I thing you found your engine!
See my hangar: http://www.wspromotion.com/SansNom.html
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