Where is the FEJ F14 customer complane thread gone??
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How about the one from delgatogrande asking the mods to delete the complaint thread and sayin FEJ would send in their usual payment for doing so?
Its all a cover up! Lol... j/k. But really, what did happen to both of them? The original had valid complaints and concerns, violations should be removed, not entire threads..
Its all a cover up! Lol... j/k. But really, what did happen to both of them? The original had valid complaints and concerns, violations should be removed, not entire threads..
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you have no prove against me sirmods delete all rcu now before its too late
...or better leave it ..this members is just a target group= bank accounts with no memory or will...NOT
agree with Gerald remove violations and leave the thread
...or better leave it ..this members is just a target group= bank accounts with no memory or will...NOT
agree with Gerald remove violations and leave the thread
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RE: Where is the FEJ F14 customer complane thread gone??
ORIGINAL: DelGatoGrande
you have no prove against me sirmods delete all rcu now before its too late
...or better leave it ..this members is just a target group= bank accounts with no memory or will...NOT
agree with Gerald remove violations and leave the thread
you have no prove against me sirmods delete all rcu now before its too late
...or better leave it ..this members is just a target group= bank accounts with no memory or will...NOT
agree with Gerald remove violations and leave the thread
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RE: Where is the FEJ F14 customer complane thread gone??
Here it is out of the Google cache. I can't see any violations!?
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Status: offline Just curious if anyone has had issues with Fly Eagle Jets in the quality of their product such as the equipment i.e. retracts, airlines, bulkhead/formers not secured or improperly installed. In addition to the run around from their U.S. Rep in Maryland? I completely understand that not all their products will be as poorly constructed as mine or maybe mine was just a fluke, however their customer support leaves a lot to be desired including their home office.
While I await any responses from members I will compile the timeline of my experience and post.
RE: FLy Eagle Jets - 7/12/2011 12:29 AM
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Status: offline Yup, I've yet to see even ONE successful fly eagle jets flight. If you'd have checked here sooner and seen all the problems Fly Eagle Jets has had, you probably wouldn't have bought one. Sorry about your troubles.
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Status: offline I purchased the F-14. The bulkheads were not properly glued and simply came loose when first touched. No re-enforcing at stabilizer pivot point. Most of the included platforms/plywood extremely thin. Not worthy of a high performance model as this. Their valves are reported not to be the highest quality as reported by the builder so I opted to replace them along with the entire air syste
Having to consider replacing gear with mechanical due to reported failure of their components.
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Status: offline So what are you saying?
Nothing in my posting is or will be degrading, or obscene.
What it will be is the truth of my experience in hopes of the future customer learning from my experience prior to investing over 10,000 in a kit
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ORIGINAL: cmorgan
Just curious if anyone has had issues with Fly Eagle Jets in the quality of their product such as the equipment i.e. retracts, airlines, bulkhead/formers not secured or improperly installed. In addition to the run around from their U.S. Rep in Maryland? I completely understand that not all their products will be as poorly constructed as mine or maybe mine was just a fluke, however their customer support leaves a lot to be desired including their home office.
While I await any responses from members I will compile the timeline of my experience and post.
Simple answer for you, Yes all of the above.
I have had 2, one broke up in flight, structural failure, the other I did my homework and improved it and spent a lot of money changing, replacing, re-inforcing etc.
Do your homework and go through everything and improve it to your standards.
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Status: offline I appreciate the info. I just got the plane back from the builder, still having to complete some things and verify structural integrity and hopefully airworthiness.
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Status: offline I think fly eagle jets, right now, make for really awesome static display models.
They really do have gorgeous paint jobs.
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Status: offline It appears that fej's are getting better but I think they are definitely a model to check everything on over and over. There is a thread showing a stress test and failure on the f14 wing that you will want to see. My experiences with them were not great. In the end I got rid of the jets I had after fixing multiple structural issues. I was just worn out and did not want the grief any longer.
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Status: offline Just curious if anyone has had issues with Fly Eagle Jets in the quality of their product such as the equipment i.e. retracts, airlines, bulkhead/formers not secured or improperly installed. In addition to the run around from their U.S. Rep in Maryland? I completely understand that not all their products will be as poorly constructed as mine or maybe mine was just a fluke, however their customer support leaves a lot to be desired including their home office.
While I await any responses from members I will compile the timeline of my experience and post.
RE: FLy Eagle Jets - 7/12/2011 12:29 AM
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Status: offline Yup, I've yet to see even ONE successful fly eagle jets flight. If you'd have checked here sooner and seen all the problems Fly Eagle Jets has had, you probably wouldn't have bought one. Sorry about your troubles.
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Status: offline I purchased the F-14. The bulkheads were not properly glued and simply came loose when first touched. No re-enforcing at stabilizer pivot point. Most of the included platforms/plywood extremely thin. Not worthy of a high performance model as this. Their valves are reported not to be the highest quality as reported by the builder so I opted to replace them along with the entire air syste
Having to consider replacing gear with mechanical due to reported failure of their components.
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Status: offline So what are you saying?
Nothing in my posting is or will be degrading, or obscene.
What it will be is the truth of my experience in hopes of the future customer learning from my experience prior to investing over 10,000 in a kit
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ORIGINAL: cmorgan
Just curious if anyone has had issues with Fly Eagle Jets in the quality of their product such as the equipment i.e. retracts, airlines, bulkhead/formers not secured or improperly installed. In addition to the run around from their U.S. Rep in Maryland? I completely understand that not all their products will be as poorly constructed as mine or maybe mine was just a fluke, however their customer support leaves a lot to be desired including their home office.
While I await any responses from members I will compile the timeline of my experience and post.
Simple answer for you, Yes all of the above.
I have had 2, one broke up in flight, structural failure, the other I did my homework and improved it and spent a lot of money changing, replacing, re-inforcing etc.
Do your homework and go through everything and improve it to your standards.
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Status: offline I appreciate the info. I just got the plane back from the builder, still having to complete some things and verify structural integrity and hopefully airworthiness.
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Status: offline I think fly eagle jets, right now, make for really awesome static display models.
They really do have gorgeous paint jobs.
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Status: offline It appears that fej's are getting better but I think they are definitely a model to check everything on over and over. There is a thread showing a stress test and failure on the f14 wing that you will want to see. My experiences with them were not great. In the end I got rid of the jets I had after fixing multiple structural issues. I was just worn out and did not want the grief any longer.
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RE: Where is the FEJ F14 customer complane thread gone??
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What were the violations? It was a valid thread. Remove the violations and leave the thread.
What were the violations? It was a valid thread. Remove the violations and leave the thread.
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RE: Where is the FEJ F14 customer complane thread gone??
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How about the one from delgatogrande asking the mods to delete the complaint thread and sayin FEJ would send in their usual payment for doing so?
How about the one from delgatogrande asking the mods to delete the complaint thread and sayin FEJ would send in their usual payment for doing so?
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His thread was removed because it is not the proper method on RCU to report a problem with at thread. If he felt there was something wrong with the thread in question then he should have opened a report ticket, not post a thread in the open forums
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How about the one from delgatogrande asking the mods to delete the complaint thread and sayin FEJ would send in their usual payment for doing so?
How about the one from delgatogrande asking the mods to delete the complaint thread and sayin FEJ would send in their usual payment for doing so?
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RE: Where is the FEJ F14 customer complane thread gone??
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Why ?
ORIGINAL: RCKen
I'm not going to post information about why this thread was deleted
I'm not going to post information about why this thread was deleted
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I think as a moderator Ken you should explain yourself. Your quick to jump on others here.
I think as a moderator Ken you should explain yourself. Your quick to jump on others here.
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RE: Where is the FEJ F14 customer complane thread gone??
The way i see it is that the post got deleted because Customer reported that the model he received
was a "second hand damaged one" that "it was repainted " and "resold as new "to him.[:-]
Plus the fact he was asking FEJ dealer to step up and clear things out for some time.
Did you also ban this member ?
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RE: Where is the FEJ F14 customer complane thread gone??
The thread was not removed for any reason concerning the actual content of the thread. As I said, the subject could be reopened if the actions that caused it to be removed are not repeated. And no, the member was not banned. We don't ban a member for one simple offense or rule violation. <div>
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Or multiple violations cause I still see many multiple violators posting the same garbage. And some are upset they didn't get to post some more violations on a thread about FEJ and are doing a great job of making it well known on this one.
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RE: Where is the FEJ F14 customer complane thread gone??
ORIGINAL: RCKen
The thread was not removed for any reason concerning the actual content of the thread. As I said, the subject could be reopened if the actions that caused it to be removed are not repeated. And no, the member was not banned. We don't ban a member for one simple offense or rule violation. <div>
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The thread was not removed for any reason concerning the actual content of the thread. As I said, the subject could be reopened if the actions that caused it to be removed are not repeated. And no, the member was not banned. We don't ban a member for one simple offense or rule violation. <div>
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Wait a second... if the thread wasn't removed due to the content of the thread, and the OP could repost it, then why was it removed rather than editted? I don't care what the subject of the thread was, be it fej or anything else, but if you are saying that it wasn't removed due to content then what possible valid reason could it have been? I'm not trying to be anti moderator here, I remember the task well, but these statements lead to some strange questions.
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RE: Where is the FEJ F14 customer complane thread gone??
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Wait a second... if the thread wasn't removed due to the content of the thread, and the OP could repost it, then why was it removed rather than editted? I don't care what the subject of the thread was, be it fej or anything else, but if you are saying that it wasn't removed due to content then what possible valid reason could it have been? I'm not trying to be anti moderator here, I remember the task well, but these statements lead to some strange questions.
ORIGINAL: RCKen
The thread was not removed for any reason concerning the actual content of the thread. As I said, the subject could be reopened if the actions that caused it to be removed are not repeated. And no, the member was not banned. We don't ban a member for one simple offense or rule violation.<div></div><div>Ken</div>
The thread was not removed for any reason concerning the actual content of the thread. As I said, the subject could be reopened if the actions that caused it to be removed are not repeated. And no, the member was not banned. We don't ban a member for one simple offense or rule violation.<div></div><div>Ken</div>
Wait a second... if the thread wasn't removed due to the content of the thread, and the OP could repost it, then why was it removed rather than editted? I don't care what the subject of the thread was, be it fej or anything else, but if you are saying that it wasn't removed due to content then what possible valid reason could it have been? I'm not trying to be anti moderator here, I remember the task well, but these statements lead to some strange questions.
As I have stated many times in this thread already, the actions that caused this thread to be removed are NOT going to be discussed here in this thread. When a thread is created here on RCU the actions of the person that created that thread can be held to a higher standard than other members that post in an existing thread. There are many times on RCU where a thread is removed because the person that creates the thread takes actions that are not appropriate. An example would be (and no, this is not why this thread was removed): a member creates a thread asking a question, and then when he receives answers from other members he starts attacking those members because he doesn't like the answers he was given. If something like this happens in an existing thread we simply remove the posts where this occured. But since the member created a thread and did this action we hold it to a higher standard and remove the thread. Once again, this is not why this thread was removed, but it is just one example of why a thread would be removed because of the actions of the OP. While some on here may think so, the job of moderating is not always "black and white" where everything is spelled out and set in stone. There are many times a matter is more "shades of grey" and each situation needs to be handled on it's own. And this is where issues like this come up. Moderators must constantly look at situations and make judgement calls while working within the RCU Community Rules. This is one such situation. And once again, the details about what happened are not something that is going to be discussed in the public forums here on RCU, or with members other than the one involved in this issue.
Once again, what happened is a matter between the member and the Moderator that closed the thread.
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RE: Where is the FEJ F14 customer complane thread gone??
ORIGINAL: DelGatoGrande
so you say that the thread was not deleted because of something its been writen in it ,
but because of moderators personal reason that we are not alow to know?
so you say that the thread was not deleted because of something its been writen in it ,
but because of moderators personal reason that we are not alow to know?
Ken
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