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Old 07-30-2020, 01:52 PM
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From what I've been reading ( and I have been reading a LOT ) I think they have improved how the NG 900mhz talks back to the radio, and from what I've read the dual path is between the 2.4 and the NG 900mhz.

Also, the NG 900mhz receivers will work only with DS12 & DS16II.

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From what I've been reading ( and I have been reading a LOT )O yjiml they have improved how the 900mhz NG talks back to the radio, and from what I've read the dual path is between the 2.4 and the 900mhz.

Also the NG 900 receivers will work only with DS12 & DS16.
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Originally Posted by CARS II
From what I've been reading ( and I have been reading a LOT ) I think they have improved how the 900mhz NG talks back to the radio, and from what I've read the dual path is between the 2.4 and the 900mhz.

Also the NG 900 receivers will work only with DS12 & DS16.
I have seen a number of people speculate that dual path with the DS12 is between 2.4Ghz and 900Mhz but that isn't the case, it works with 2, 2.4Ghz receivers the same as all other Jeti systems. The difference is they share the single 2.4Ghz Tx RF module, alternating between the primary and secondary receivers. Basically 50% of the data goes to the primary 2.4Ghz RX. and 50% goes to the secondary 2.4Ghz RX. This sounds terrible but in practice you really can't tell any difference and there is no noticeable latency, etc, even though there must be some. This is NOT speculation. I own a DS12 and have configured and tested it in dual path mode with 2, 2.4Ghz receivers. Still, due to the fact that you may be discarding 50% of your data, I think default mode with a clone receiver is a better choice for the DS12 if you really feel the need for dual receivers. As it stands now the 900Mhz NG receiver only claims to be a backup if 2.4Ghz communication is lost.

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I just upgraded my DS12 radio from an 8 Chl to a 16 chl and a few more funtions that I will be experimenting with like the accelerometers, I think I now have all I need for this radio, I will be adding the 900mhz module as soon as the 900mhz receivers become available, there are some functions that I don't see myself using at all, like throttle limiter or servo balancer and one or two more items, because of this I'm well below the $960 deluxe price yet I have what I need to fly jets and then some.

My recommendation to anyone considering the Jeti DS12 is to get the deluxe package, when adding modules you end up paying in EU, which is a bit more than dollars, if you buy the deluxe package is all in dollars, what they ask is what you pay, free shipping and no tax for us Cali guys, even so, I'm still well bellow the deluxe package.

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Depending on what you fly the servo balancer can be a wonderful thing. For example, if you fly giant scale gas powered airplanes 120cc and larger it is very common to have multiple servos connected to a single control surface. Without the servo balancing feature you can only match your servo to prevent binding at 3 points, extreme travel (max_pos/max_neg) and center (sub trim). The servo balancing feature allows you to adjust the curve for each servo at multiple points so you can minimize binding through out the entire range of travel rather than at the extremes and center. I always try to get things as good as possible mechanically but I've had 170cc airplanes that no matter how much I fiddled mechanically I could never get them as good as I liked. This one in particular would typically consume 1000mah of battery for each and every flight (not all that unusual for a 170cc plane) and by using the servo balancing feature I was able to reduce that to about 750mah per flight which is pretty significant. It also eliminated the servo gear train wear that is associated with multi servo control surfaces that aren't balanced as well as they might be.

Even with aircraft that only have 1 servo per control surface the servo balancing feature can be useful. Ever have split elevators that when you watch them closely never seem to move in perfect unison ? Well the servo balancer feature can be used to solve that as well by adjusting the points where the elevators are out of sync to make them match.

You can of course get by without it but it really can be quite nice if you have it..

P.S. Glad to see you sharing your experience learning about your new DS12..






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Old 07-30-2020, 08:18 PM
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Wayne, thank you for posting your Jeti knowlage, I appreciate it, I'm with you on the servo balancer for a control surface with multiple servos, yes on the split elevator with one servo each a bit out of sinc, my Boomerang is that way, hardly noticeable, so far it is the only airplane that I have that could use that feature, the misalignment is so minimal that I decided not to get that module at this time.

There are other modules that I didn't get simply because I'm not sure when or if I will be needing them, time will tell.

Next is configuration of the switches.

I will keep reporting my experiences with the DS12.

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I'm reading the thread on the other side, some clarification on the NG 900mhz receivers.

Also new planned 900MHz receiver will be different LR (long range) than existing one.
We want standard wire antennas opposed the flat patch type style if possible.

Zb/Esprit
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Does any one know how to upload a picture of a model into the DS12.

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Does anyone knows how many models can be programed in the DS12, I have not seen it posted anywhere.

Tks.

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I will be adding a screen protector to my DS12 and this rubber antislip tape around the grips.






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Having the a 24hr clock doesn't bother me, I use it at work all the time but someone else may want change it to the regular 12hr clock.

Does anyone knows how to change it?
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Just found this to change the 24 hr clock to a 12 hr clock, will try that later.

Get this RCT-12h_2020.zip

1. Copy to /Apps on your SD-card
2. Add to lua-apps, no settings.
3. Go to Menu -> Timers/Sensors -> Main Screen, set "Telemetry displayed at clock screen" to Lua -> RCT-Clock.

I'm assuming you can tell AM or PM yourself, due space those were removed.
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Originally Posted by CARS II
Does anyone knows how many models can be programed in the DS12, I have not seen it posted anywhere.

Tks.
As many as you want, it's size of the memory no number of models.
I am telling everybody that you will run out of the money for new models sooner that run out of the Tx memory.

Zb/Jeti USA

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Old 07-31-2020, 09:36 AM
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Very good Zb, thank you.

Could you confirme that the receiver 900mhz is been release here in the US next month as posted.

Tks.
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Originally Posted by CARS II
Very good Zb, thank you.

Could you confirme that the receiver 900mhz is been release here in the US next month as posted.

Tks.
All I can confirm that we will start FCC and IC certification as soon as we receive all samples and documentation, rest is in hands of Ancient Gods, Corona-virus and US Government.

Zb/Jeti USA
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Thank you for the clarification on the 900mhz receivers.
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Thank you for the clarification on the 900mhz receivers.
As jeti users we when through this a lot in the past and my crystal ball Says about 1 year....

For ZB that mean $$$$ out the door.....
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So Carlos, this is a short coming of Jeti. If you look at the Ds-24 thread, it took almost 2 years to get the ds-24 out.

One HAS to be patient for any new offerings from Jeti to actually make it into our hands in the good ole US of A.

But once we get it, it is a phenomenal product.

Edit: it took over 3 years to get my ds-24.

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Originally Posted by ravill
So Carlos, this is a short coming of Jeti. If you look at the Ds-24 thread, it took almost 2 years to get the ds-24 out.

One HAS to be patient for any new offerings from Jeti to actually make it into our hands in the good ole US of A.

But once we get it, it is a phenomenal product.

Edit: it took over 3 years to get my ds-24.
It took one year and 8 days from the pre-order to being shipped to me for the DC-24.....Which was closed to when they become available in Europe plus one year...and that’s is pretty standard, nothing to do with Jeti it’s has everything to do with FCC...

The biggest problem with Jeti (unlike other factory’s ) is they are mostly transparent about what is coming next....instead of announcing it where they start productions....it’s a 2 edges sword, one it’s nice to know what is coming out, that may change the purchases....two you get to wait and wait until they are happy with the results......and for N/A customers....FCC 1 years delay...

Im pretty sure it didn’t take 3 years for the DS-24 to get certified.....

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I loves me some jeti. The point being, when hearing of something new, patience is a virtue young grasshopper!
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I supposed I'm in the same boat us you guys now.

Oh well, I can wait, in the mean time, FLY, FLY , FLY.
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Some goodies have arrived, more coming soon.



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Pimping my DS12, not done doing that, a few more cosmetics changes in the near future.

Making my radio, my radio










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Switch changes, swapped the rotary knobs 5 & 6 with two small switches, SB two possition long switch with a two possition spring loaded long, SD two possition spring loaded long with a two possition long, also I'm swapping the plastic switch cups with metal ones, using the short ones up front on the two small switches and the longer ones on the longer switches, getting two set of the metal cups to complete the task.

In order to do the switch changes, you have to cut the zip ties, disconnect the strips from the rotary knob, pay attention to which direction the blue color on the strip goes ( take a picture ) before disconnecting, replace the zip ties and don't forget to reconnect the batt.

Update: the switches didn't work but it got fixed, the reason was that on the rotary knobs the blue color of the strip goes facing the rotary knob body, on the other switches the blue color was facing away from the switch body, I swapped the strip and the switches are working as they should.
After replacing the batt cable, close it, turn it on, set the DATE & TIME again and check that the swiches are working properly, watch the vid.













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Old 08-01-2020, 03:05 AM
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Some goodies have arrived, more coming soon.



Where did you get the transmitter arm/stand?


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