Does the brake/retract valve from Altecare use one or two air tanks?
09-04-2008, 05:54 PM
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Does the brake/retract valve from Altecare use one or two air tanks?
http://www.altecare.com/retairsysaccess.htm
Or since its one valve does it use one air tank? I like to have two air tanks. And NOT share the retract/brake air tank
Or since its one valve does it use one air tank? I like to have two air tanks. And NOT share the retract/brake air tank
09-04-2008, 06:18 PM
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RE: Does the brake/retract valve from Altecare use one or two air tanks?
It looks like you could have as many airtanks as you want. You could plumb them in parallel and just get more carrying capacity.
09-04-2008, 07:54 PM
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It looks like you could have as many airtanks as you want. You could plumb them in parallel and just get more carrying capacity.
It looks like you could have as many airtanks as you want. You could plumb them in parallel and just get more carrying capacity.
09-04-2008, 11:36 PM
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RE: Does the brake/retract valve from Altecare use one or two air tanks?
Harley is right, yet in the case of a leak, retracts would not go down after they have been raised, therefore not having brakes is irrelevant, I have used mine for about 5 months on a C-ARF Flash, no leaks at all, actually, this is one of the best systems I've had in terms of having no leaks, I have NONE since day one, I have kept air pressure for a whole week, haven't tried it longer since I fly every weekend. What I do though is that I do not use the brake output for braking, what I do is I use an electronic valve feeding off the brake output, retracts going down would do full throw on the valve servo opening the brake output, braking would actually be done by the electronic proportional valve, while retracts are up, there is no air in the brake system, thus no accidental loss of air due to a partially open brake valve, plus I still only use one air tank...
09-05-2008, 07:40 AM
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RE: Does the brake/retract valve from Altecare use one or two air tanks?
The idea for this valve is to save an extra brake valve and an extra tank.
If you do your installation correctly, they will not leak and you will have a long and reliable life out of them.
I have been using them on all my air systems (jets or otherwise) for over 4 years now.
The system stays pressurized for a long time.
If you do your installation correctly, they will not leak and you will have a long and reliable life out of them.
I have been using them on all my air systems (jets or otherwise) for over 4 years now.
The system stays pressurized for a long time.
ORIGINAL: NightFlyer1
http://www.altecare.com/retairsysaccess.htm
Or since its one valve does it use one air tank? I like to have two air tanks. And NOT share the retract/brake air tank
http://www.altecare.com/retairsysaccess.htm
Or since its one valve does it use one air tank? I like to have two air tanks. And NOT share the retract/brake air tank
09-05-2008, 07:56 AM
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RE: Does the brake/retract valve from Altecare use one or two air tanks?
Ya, I have had no failures or leaks on this valve either. It is bulletproof on the 4 or 5 I have installed and used. Coupled with the Tam's unit, is a great deal. Plus, it's only $35.00! Or at least that what I paid for them.
09-05-2008, 09:57 AM
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Mine has worked well on my Flash. The only downside is that it's not proportional, but a little lube takes care of that.
09-13-2008, 07:21 PM
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RE: Does the brake/retract valve from Altecare use one or two air tanks?
How are you guys mixing this for function? I have a Futaba 9c I take it I would make the gear switch the master? Since I only want the brakes to work when the gear is down..
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Thanks
09-13-2008, 07:30 PM
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RE: Does the brake/retract valve from Altecare use one or two air tanks?
ORIGINAL: NightFlyer1
How are you guys mixing this for function? I have a Futaba 9c I take it I would make the gear switch the master? Since I only want the brakes to work when the gear is down..
Thanks
How are you guys mixing this for function? I have a Futaba 9c I take it I would make the gear switch the master? Since I only want the brakes to work when the gear is down..
Thanks
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09-14-2008, 06:06 PM
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RE: Does the brake/retract valve from Altecare use one or two air tanks?
Hi,
Got my new valve and finished farting around with my radio to get it to work.....
Heres how i set mine up on 10C 2.4.
1. Valve on ch5. set the end points so flipping your retract switch properly moves valve enough to get up and down retracts.
2. OFFSET PMIX for channel 5 to allow extension of servo to activate brake. Activate the offset mix with a logic switch that only activates with gear down and with what ever switch your using for the brakes.
LSW1
SW : H (my brake switch)
Posi: down
mode: x/and (required both gear down and brake switch flipped to activate brakes)
SW: G (my retract switch)
posi: up (retracts in down position to allow use of brakes. cant activate brake with gear up)
Pmix
Rate: -25%
Master: OFST
Slave: CH5
Link: off
SW: LS1 (sets logic switch as brake on and off switch)
Posi: norm
End Point:
CH5: 50%, 50% (depends on your servos and setup)
Got my new valve and finished farting around with my radio to get it to work.....
Heres how i set mine up on 10C 2.4.
1. Valve on ch5. set the end points so flipping your retract switch properly moves valve enough to get up and down retracts.
2. OFFSET PMIX for channel 5 to allow extension of servo to activate brake. Activate the offset mix with a logic switch that only activates with gear down and with what ever switch your using for the brakes.
LSW1
SW : H (my brake switch)
Posi: down
mode: x/and (required both gear down and brake switch flipped to activate brakes)
SW: G (my retract switch)
posi: up (retracts in down position to allow use of brakes. cant activate brake with gear up)
Pmix
Rate: -25%
Master: OFST
Slave: CH5
Link: off
SW: LS1 (sets logic switch as brake on and off switch)
Posi: norm
End Point:
CH5: 50%, 50% (depends on your servos and setup)
09-14-2008, 06:37 PM
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RE: Does the brake/retract valve from Altecare use one or two air tanks?
Hopefully I can set it up so that when my gear is down the brakes are on and when my gear is up the brakes are off. I use channel 5 for my gear. They are on a switch. And then for my brakes, they are on a slider. I don't want to have to flip my gear switch THEN flip another switch to activate my brakes. We'll see how it goes.....
What I meant was, gear down, brakes active!
What I meant was, gear down, brakes active!
09-14-2008, 08:31 PM
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RE: Does the brake/retract valve from Altecare use one or two air tanks?
ORIGINAL: NightFlyer1
Hopefully I can set it up so that when my gear is down the brakes are on and when my gear is up the brakes are off. I use channel 5 for my gear. They are on a switch. And then for my brakes, they are on a slider. I don't want to have to flip my gear switch THEN flip another switch to activate my brakes. We'll see how it goes.....
Hopefully I can set it up so that when my gear is down the brakes are on and when my gear is up the brakes are off. I use channel 5 for my gear. They are on a switch. And then for my brakes, they are on a slider. I don't want to have to flip my gear switch THEN flip another switch to activate my brakes. We'll see how it goes.....
Dave
09-14-2008, 10:32 PM
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RE: Does the brake/retract valve from Altecare use one or two air tanks?
ORIGINAL: NightFlyer1
Hopefully I can set it up so that when my gear is down the brakes are on and when my gear is up the brakes are off. I use channel 5 for my gear. They are on a switch. And then for my brakes, they are on a slider. I don't want to have to flip my gear switch THEN flip another switch to activate my brakes. We'll see how it goes.....
Hopefully I can set it up so that when my gear is down the brakes are on and when my gear is up the brakes are off. I use channel 5 for my gear. They are on a switch. And then for my brakes, they are on a slider. I don't want to have to flip my gear switch THEN flip another switch to activate my brakes. We'll see how it goes.....
brake is not propotional so using a slider is more effort than switch, but its up to you.
