P-38 Fly-In
12-18-2003, 11:24 AM
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P-38 Fly-In
Brotherhood of the P-38:
OK, I'll start the thread.
Please respond with:
1) You would be willing to travel 100-600 miles in mid-2004 with your P-38 (s).
2) Optimistically, how many P-38's will you have then.
3) Point of Origin (i.e. the nearest good RC airfield to you).
Other details we can assume, or work out later, like: will it be a whole weekend, good runways, will we allow other multi-engine warbirds, publicity, probability of good weather at any particular spot, is it competition or just fellowship, sponsors, etc. For now, let's just get availability and geography.
mt
OK, I'll start the thread.
Please respond with:
1) You would be willing to travel 100-600 miles in mid-2004 with your P-38 (s).
2) Optimistically, how many P-38's will you have then.
3) Point of Origin (i.e. the nearest good RC airfield to you).
Other details we can assume, or work out later, like: will it be a whole weekend, good runways, will we allow other multi-engine warbirds, publicity, probability of good weather at any particular spot, is it competition or just fellowship, sponsors, etc. For now, let's just get availability and geography.
mt
12-18-2003, 09:20 PM
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RE: P-38 Fly-In
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Brotherhood of the P-38:
OK, I'll start the thread.
Please respond with:
1) You would be willing to travel 100-600 miles in mid-2004 with your P-38 (s).
2) Optimistically, how many P-38's will you have then.
3) Point of Origin (i.e. the nearest good RC airfield to you).
Other details we can assume, or work out later, like: will it be a whole weekend, good runways, will we allow other multi-engine warbirds, publicity, probability of good weather at any particular spot, is it competition or just fellowship, sponsors, etc. For now, let's just get availability and geography.
mt
Brotherhood of the P-38:
OK, I'll start the thread.
Please respond with:
1) You would be willing to travel 100-600 miles in mid-2004 with your P-38 (s).
2) Optimistically, how many P-38's will you have then.
3) Point of Origin (i.e. the nearest good RC airfield to you).
Other details we can assume, or work out later, like: will it be a whole weekend, good runways, will we allow other multi-engine warbirds, publicity, probability of good weather at any particular spot, is it competition or just fellowship, sponsors, etc. For now, let's just get availability and geography.
mt
2) Just one
3) GAS, Odem, Tx. (Corpus Christi, Tx)
12-18-2003, 10:03 PM
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RE: P-38 Fly-In
Kram:
If it's not too far, and someone asks nicely, I will come and bring a pair of REAL airplanes - two F7F Tigercats. Hopefully, one will have twin radial engines (real ones) by midsummer. The other one is shown in my avatar.
Bill.
If it's not too far, and someone asks nicely, I will come and bring a pair of REAL airplanes - two F7F Tigercats. Hopefully, one will have twin radial engines (real ones) by midsummer. The other one is shown in my avatar.
Bill.
12-18-2003, 10:56 PM
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RE: P-38 Fly-In
Greg:
I may give up on the radials. Marc has already pushed my production date back twice. First it was last month (November) then late January or February, now it's up to April.
Suppose I could use the Saito 90 engines, but three cylinders just do not look right.
Bill.
I may give up on the radials. Marc has already pushed my production date back twice. First it was last month (November) then late January or February, now it's up to April.
Suppose I could use the Saito 90 engines, but three cylinders just do not look right.
Bill.
12-19-2003, 04:43 PM
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This would be so cool!
You know how everything at the field comes to a halt when you fly a P-38 (heck, even just tune the engines)??
Imagine a flight line full of them! And the air full of fork-tailed devils!
On the other hand, response to this thread has been a little sluggish. Maybe we should broaden the field to "multi-engine planes" to get better attendance.
mt
You know how everything at the field comes to a halt when you fly a P-38 (heck, even just tune the engines)??
Imagine a flight line full of them! And the air full of fork-tailed devils!
On the other hand, response to this thread has been a little sluggish. Maybe we should broaden the field to "multi-engine planes" to get better attendance.
mt
12-19-2003, 05:03 PM
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RE: P-38 Fly-In
AN ALL P-38 OR ALL TWIN WARBIRD FLY IN WOULD BE A LOT OF FUN. I WOULD TRAVEL 400 TO 600 MILES FROM PHILADELPHIA. I HAVE A ZIROLI P-38 AND A ZIROLI D-18.
12-19-2003, 05:31 PM
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RE: P-38 Fly-In
I would also travel 600 miles, I think it would be an awesom event. We have to get our stuff together and just do it. One step at a time, first of all, how many would want to do it. I know theres a lot of P-38s 0ut there. And other twin engine planes. Lets keep this going and see what becomes of this.
Rich
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12-19-2003, 08:11 PM
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RE: P-38 Fly-In
I'm in from Houston. Have two P-38's ready to go. I think I can get both into the old Suburban!!!
Twinman
PS kram why don't you post this as a referal on the warbirds forum?
Twinman
PS kram why don't you post this as a referal on the warbirds forum?
12-19-2003, 08:37 PM
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RE: P-38 Fly-In
Count me in on the fly -in
Probably better re name it cool warbirds singles and multi first annual warbird fly in
With a disclamer of NO HOVERING AND NO PROFILES
Probably better re name it cool warbirds singles and multi first annual warbird fly in
With a disclamer of NO HOVERING AND NO PROFILES
12-19-2003, 09:23 PM
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RE: P-38 Fly-In
Ohh yeah Baby,
as mentioned above, an all Twin Warbird event would be exceptional, I think I would drive as far as Texas with my two Lightenings. One a VicRc P-38 and the other a Ziroli offering.
Probably need about a year and a half to make it work for the first gathering, after that ......
[link=http://airrayinc.com/p-38_lightenings.htm]P-38s[/link]
Ray
as mentioned above, an all Twin Warbird event would be exceptional, I think I would drive as far as Texas with my two Lightenings. One a VicRc P-38 and the other a Ziroli offering.
Probably need about a year and a half to make it work for the first gathering, after that ......
[link=http://airrayinc.com/p-38_lightenings.htm]P-38s[/link]
Ray
12-20-2003, 03:13 AM
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I am in Wichita Falls, Tx and would would be willing to drive 600 miles for a P-38 gathering. The only catch is I have to finish mine. I hope to have my Ziroli done by early summer. Unfortunatly I lost my last Lightning last summer which currently leaves me with zero flying P-38s. P-38's RULE!
12-20-2003, 01:40 PM
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RE: P-38 Fly-In
I live in North Dallas Texas.
Where I fly is a outstanding grass field.
It is long enough to get a full size cub in .
They do a really good job keeping the grass cut.
I would rather have a paved surface but I can offer my clubs field for the fly in
Also I would like to have the main emphasis of Lockheed P-38 Lightnings.
But there are a lot of other really nice warbirds and pilots I would like to see/meet
What do you "Big Iron" guys think
Greg
Where I fly is a outstanding grass field.
It is long enough to get a full size cub in .
They do a really good job keeping the grass cut.
I would rather have a paved surface but I can offer my clubs field for the fly in
Also I would like to have the main emphasis of Lockheed P-38 Lightnings.
But there are a lot of other really nice warbirds and pilots I would like to see/meet
What do you "Big Iron" guys think
Greg
12-20-2003, 03:29 PM
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RE: P-38 Fly-In
Well, we here aren't central to the P-38 bunch, the Pensacola area of Florida, but if you check any pictorial of the "Rally of Eagles" you can see one of our fields. The paved runways (yes, three) are long and wide enough for an F-15, not to mention a Piper Cub. And that's just one of our sites.
Or check our web site, http://www.nfmi.org/ and look at "Rae Fritz Field" for another nice one, but the paving there is only 300' long.
Just a thought.
Bill.
Or check our web site, http://www.nfmi.org/ and look at "Rae Fritz Field" for another nice one, but the paving there is only 300' long.
Just a thought.
Bill.
12-20-2003, 08:18 PM
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RE: P-38 Fly-In
Let's throw this in the mix kram, up here in Cedar Rapids we just completed a new field. The runway is neither grass nor paved, it is a synthetic material used under asphalt, several clubs in this region are using this material, so you get the smooth of pavement but not the abrasiveness. Our runway is 500' x 68' with an adjacent grass runway for those who like grass. The over runs are kinda short however but in future we plan to aquire more property. see pics of the runway at www.crskyhawks.org
we are looking to host a warbird event next summer at our new field, maybe we can put something together. My Ziroli P-38 will not be ready and I don't suppose this thing is scale enough for such an event but I wouldn't mind doing some work to get the event going
we are looking to host a warbird event next summer at our new field, maybe we can put something together. My Ziroli P-38 will not be ready and I don't suppose this thing is scale enough for such an event but I wouldn't mind doing some work to get the event going
12-20-2003, 08:36 PM
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RE: P-38 Fly-In
F2B:
Wow. Do you call that "Stand-a-mile-off-and-still-squint-semi-maybe-somewhat-scale?"
Who cares? You look at it and get the "P-38 thought" so I'd think it qualifies.
And on an earlier note where A84AA said no profiles and no hovering. I'll agree completely with the "No hovering," but no profiles would lock a lot of people out who have gotten the GP P-38 kit. I don't care for profiles, but there are a lot of them.
Just a thought.
Bill.
Wow. Do you call that "Stand-a-mile-off-and-still-squint-semi-maybe-somewhat-scale?"
Who cares? You look at it and get the "P-38 thought" so I'd think it qualifies.
And on an earlier note where A84AA said no profiles and no hovering. I'll agree completely with the "No hovering," but no profiles would lock a lot of people out who have gotten the GP P-38 kit. I don't care for profiles, but there are a lot of them.
Just a thought.
Bill.
12-20-2003, 08:38 PM
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RE: P-38 Fly-In
kram ,
flying2bill has my vote as a 100' Standoff scale P-38. I agree that no profiles should be allowed, but the detail of scale is not the issue, in my opinion. The P-38, or memory of it, is.
What about it, be a sport? Tee Hee.
Twinman
PS Iowa,,,,,,drove to Perry Georgia to save $10 on a muffler from Houston. Iowa, no problem. Hey, rcwarbirds.com is head quartered there!
Now, how to get a 108" scratch built and the VQ in the same Suburban???
Hovering.......Bill, My VQ has two ST 90's........why can't I hover!??? ?Whine Whine!!!
flying2bill has my vote as a 100' Standoff scale P-38. I agree that no profiles should be allowed, but the detail of scale is not the issue, in my opinion. The P-38, or memory of it, is.
What about it, be a sport? Tee Hee.
Twinman
PS Iowa,,,,,,drove to Perry Georgia to save $10 on a muffler from Houston. Iowa, no problem. Hey, rcwarbirds.com is head quartered there!
Now, how to get a 108" scratch built and the VQ in the same Suburban???
Hovering.......Bill, My VQ has two ST 90's........why can't I hover!??? ?Whine Whine!!!
12-21-2003, 06:49 AM
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RE: P-38 Fly-In
William, et al: I would have no problem with P-38 profile planes. You can really start splitting hairs about what's scale and what's not, and I think profile models generate less Oohs and Ahhs, but greatly expand the base of who's interested and who will participate.
Flying2bill: The landing strip sounds like something we might use here. Can you send me some resource tips (like where to get it and what it costs)? Do you mow over it? Also, please keep me up to date on the warbird fly. RV Man and I should 3 P-38's and a dozen or so warbirds between the two of us by next summer.
mt
Flying2bill: The landing strip sounds like something we might use here. Can you send me some resource tips (like where to get it and what it costs)? Do you mow over it? Also, please keep me up to date on the warbird fly. RV Man and I should 3 P-38's and a dozen or so warbirds between the two of us by next summer.
mt
12-21-2003, 11:20 AM
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RE: P-38 Fly-In
kram: the material is geotex, we bought it from a company in Des Moines, Quick Supply, just before they had a price increase, we paid nearly $2800 for 8 rolls and 10 boxes of staples, we overbought on the staples and I think we have 4 boxes left over. The material is sold by the sq ft I think so the width of the roll determines length. Our rolls were 17' x 260' appx so allowing for overlaps calculate how much you need. We overlapped all seams 6". If you have grass adjacent to the material it will try to grow over th edge of the material and then you can mow right up to it. We did not do this but if you are concerned about catching the edges with the mower and having it fray (or worse) allow a little extra room at the outer perimeter and trench and bury the edges, otherwise place the staples as close to the edges as possible and on the outer perimeter run the staples right next to each other, you do not want the wind to get under this. We went 4 rolls wide and I thought this was a bit of overkill but more is better, right. Davenport club has this stuff and only 1 roll wide, Waterloo I think is 2 rolls wide, I am not sure how wide it is in Owatonna Mn but as I understand it they have had their's 10+ years. If you want more info email me and we discuss further without getting off topic on this thread.
wr: As my former Centex Modelers club member called it "carnival scale" he turned a Roadrunner into a P-47 was really kinda cool. This thing is a test project for me, a place to break-in my engines, test my radio gear, test covering technique's, and hopefully get some !QUOT!large twin!QUOT! (have small ones) experience. Dimensionally it is the same as the Ziroli but the comparison stops there, completely different wing. RCWarbirds has the whole rundown (construction article?) on it including a photo of the accident. Not done yet but hope to finish it before our annual mall show.
wr: As my former Centex Modelers club member called it "carnival scale" he turned a Roadrunner into a P-47 was really kinda cool. This thing is a test project for me, a place to break-in my engines, test my radio gear, test covering technique's, and hopefully get some !QUOT!large twin!QUOT! (have small ones) experience. Dimensionally it is the same as the Ziroli but the comparison stops there, completely different wing. RCWarbirds has the whole rundown (construction article?) on it including a photo of the accident. Not done yet but hope to finish it before our annual mall show.
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RE: P-38 Fly-In
I guess it's about time I jumped in here and added my two cents:
1) I'll travel up to 400 miles
2) I have one P-38 to bring (from the Columbia Model Works kit)
3) I fly from a 600 X 100 grass field in Columbia Mo.
John Fangohr
1) I'll travel up to 400 miles
2) I have one P-38 to bring (from the Columbia Model Works kit)
3) I fly from a 600 X 100 grass field in Columbia Mo.
John Fangohr
